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I got a few responses about how/where I hid the magnets for the Kill Kannon.
Here’s were the mags are hidden…
One of the parts containing the magnets is glued to the deck with a very (paper) thin sheet of styrene glued over it so the force isn’t weakened so much and it paints over easy. The other part is glue into the frame for the big gun mount. The third part of the photo shows an in progress shot of the whole thing working together.
I don’t want anything to look obviously like it’s magnetized to hiding them is important to me – so it looks like magic! I can actually hold the entire model by the gun mount and it hold securely. As to where I got the magnets – different places really. I got a large lot off ebay, very small ones that I used for the big shoota mounts – I traded half for some larger ones my buddy got off ebay as well. Sooo. I guess ebay is a good place to look, search for neodyne magnets.
Winter’s not done with us yet up here in Minnesota so everything I had planned outside got cancelled, which means more time for the Wagon! My wife had her own projects she wanted to finish up that didn’t include me so I had a lot of time to work on the battlewagon this weekend. It may not look like a lot got done but it’s all small work, as you’ll see in the pics today.
I finished the platform for the Kill Kannon (yeah) and decorated the gun up. I want to do something to the barrel too (orkify) but no sure what to do yet. Barbed wire might be part of it. I thought of hanging a sign, but that would get in the way of anything standing under it on the deck. maybe some kind of “armor plating” that wraps around the gun tube in a few places. I’m just not sure. While I think about that I started work on the engine area.
Gotta have somewhere for the grot riggers to hang out right? MIght as well put’em where they’ll do the most good. Angle iron, the drop plate from the front of the Land Raider, some bits from the bikes shoota housings, sprue and some scrap plasticard rounds out the grot riggers platform and makes the engine look a little more orky and less Imperial. I also put on some mudflaps, they might not stay, I’m undecided. What do you folks think?
I also fiished up the big shoota guns as you can see in the bottom image.
Ahhhh. The deff roller is the hardest part of this whole vehicle – well, not the hardest art, but the most labor intense. I suppose any type of circle or curved surface is tricky since most of the plastic we use is flat panels, and that usually works well for orks. The deff roller is more sophisticated as it’s made up of many, curves panels and care needs to be taken so it looks “right”. What ever that is…
Almost all of Sunday was used to design/assemble the roller up to this point. Did I mention that I have a tendency to agonize over nearly every decision and cut I do? This makes anything I do take three times longer. I also spent an hour punching out literally hundreds of rivets. Yeah – my hands are tired. Rivets are the surest sign of dedication to an ork modeler.
Earlier in the roller process – for scale.
How it sits now.
I took way more photos of the process over the weekend and I’ll eventually to a start-to-finish on my website when this is all said and done.
Started work on the Kill Kannon platform last night. I’m looking for sturdy but transparent so you can see the plating and girding needed to stabilize a gun of this size. The idea is ramshackle beefy.
I’m realizing lately that I’m not finishing one area before moving on to another – the deff rolla is incomplete, the big shootas need to be finished off, the drivers compartment is still unfinished and I’m starting on the big gun….. Oh well, I’ll have to get back to them before I can start painting anyway.
I frustrate myself sometimes… Cleaned out the garage in preparation for summer and found some old PVC pipe bits I’d been saving for “someday/something” and I think I found what that is, although it’ll make more work for me.
Part of me never really liked the diameter of the deff rolla I’ve been working on, too weedy. This will be the base for my new roller. Of course, in great ork mek fashion, I’ll find a use (already have an idea for the front of a Rhino/trukk) for the parts. Bothers me though that I’ll be starting over on that part but I feel better knowing it’ll look better too.
Temporary placement… Yeah, this looks better, scale wise.
I did have some progress though with the big shootas. Found parts to use as mounts and magnetized them. I wish you could still take the twin linked big shootas as they looked much cooler.
I love tiny magnets! I’ve got ideas already for the rokkit mounts too.
How it sits now, with boyz for scale. Looking much more battlewagon-y.
Finished off the other side armor and redid the “face”. Much happier with where it\’s at now. Very Gork-y. I’ll be painting the lens of the searchlight a fractured green or blue. Not sure yet.
Digging through the bits boxes and came across this.
That’s right, I’m on the lookout for the Goff Rockers now…. Hehehe.
Ok, I put down some rivets, big and small. I’m liking the way it “fills out” the character here. I started working on the other side armor, creating a pretty looking ork glyph for the front plate (IMO). Now I’m jonesin’ to pick up a paint brush but all in due time, I guess.
I’m starting to rethink the front window/drivers compartment plate. I don’t think it’s imposing enough and I really want to work in the eyes/grimacing look to match the great big teef in the front. I’ll most likely chop that off this weekend and build something new for it. Mud Duck mentioned the searchlights on either side earlier – I think I’ll go with one search light on the right (while looking at it) and a view slit on the left, like in the bottom photo.
I’m also second guessing the scale/style of the armor plates in front of the bolt on big shootas positions around the top deck. I’ve finally got some ideas as to how I’m going to do them, just need to pick up/create some parts.
Here\’s the link to my new tutorial so it’s easy to find.
The nice thing about working on something so large is if I get bored/frustrated/uninspired with one thing, I can always pick another part to work on until inspiration strikes again! The mechanicals for the deff roller is done, it rolls and is removable. The photos below show the particulars and where/how it attaches. I know that I’ll be putting on plates, spikey bits and rivets, I just haven’t the image in my mind of what they should look like yet soooo….. I’ll move in to the upper deck and the railings.
Before I show how that*’s going, I want to show you my latest find. TADAH!
This is a 1:72 giant German gun. In regular 1:32/35 scale this would be way too big for something of the scale I need for a battlewagon (Gargant, yes), but in 1:72 it fits perfectly as my Kill Kannon. I sticky tacked it together to show the scale and general placement for the gun. Since it will be magnetized I can also use it as a Boom Gun on regular looted wagon. Two weapons in one! The extra bits I’m not using for this build should yield me an extra looted wagon/truck combo and or a buggy as the smaller scale Panzer Ammo Carrier frame is too small to become a full fledged tank on it’s own and I think I might use the base for a rokkit buggy. Who knows?
In the pics for the placement of the big gun is the first of the railings I’ll be putting up to keep the boyz from falling off. The last pic shows the inside detail. Oh yeah, there’s some rivets too! I picked up a leather punch and found out how dedicated one must be to make the hundreds of rivets that adorn all the orky vehicles out there. Whew!
Made some progress over the weekend on the deff roller and had a little mini-vacation with the missus! Overall, a good weekend.
The first pic today is a composite showing some in process while making the rollers themselves. The first inset is the armature end that connects the rollers to the connecting arms. The red bars show where the rods will stop up against the plastic card inside to give it more stability and strength.
The others are the rollers, capped, and then the detail plates and capper glyphs for the end of the outside rollers.
The last couple are the model shown with the roller in place to see how it fits. I’ll have to shorten up the connecting arms and I’m still trying to work out how I want the ends to look, the parts that go up into the body. I’ll have to hide a couple of magnets too so I\’m going around and around in my head on how to do that.
I’m also on the hunt for a rotary leather punch tool to make rivets. It seems that’s the one final detail missing here to make this thing really look orky. I can’t seem to find one in town so off to Amazon.com I go…
I’m pretty happy with how this thing’s turning out. Took a while to start “realizing” it, but I think I’ve finally got it. I unleashed the Dremel last night and went to town. It might seem like it’s not battle damaged enough but I want to save some open space to do Orky graffiti somewhere. “Die ‘umie scum”, and the like.
I also redid the front end. Those other teef just weren’t doing it. These are much more Gork-y (or is it Mork-y?) I’m not sure about loosing the “eyes” though as putting in the angry looking one eye looks was something I wanted, the single slit drivers window doesn’t allow for that. I might just go back and redo that part to give’m agood set of grimacy eyes.
I also took pictures of it next to the ork trukk for scale. This thing’s gonna be a monster to paint. I’m thinking of asking a friend with and airbrush to do the base coats to save me some time. I know I could spray can it but I think that goes on quite a bit thicker that an airbrush can and I want to minimize any detail loss.
Side Note: I hate it when I think I’m done with something, then look at the pictures and realize I forgot something. Grrrr. I need to add the banding straps to the top deck yet. At least there’s still time.
Did a bunch of patchy work. Added some random panels to the topside, I’m going to add a few straps across the top too to break it up even more and give it another layer of depth/detail.
I also started on the side panels and front details. The eyes/teeth are from a previous battlewagon attempt and now that I see this pic, I don’t think they work right. I’m going to add the bottom teeth in the typical manner and find a way to incorporate the eyes, but right now it just looks funny. They’ll be coming off.
Looking back at what I’ve accomplished so far gives me greater respect for those (krooza, Lemmingspawn, jamsessionein, just to name a few that have inspired me to finally start this) who churn these types of things out on a daily basis (or so it would seem). My fingers have taken a beating – and I haven’t even started the rivets! My mind is constantly being challenged to either use something creatively or create something new that matches what’s in my head.
It\’s pretty cool though to see the process, especially when I can look back at this blog so readily and watch it progress over time – again. This becomes my inspiration at times when I just look at it and say “this isn’t looking very good.”